Package Details: ttf-ms-win11-thai 10.0.26100.3775-1

Git Clone URL: https://aur.archlinux.org/ttf-ms-win11.git (read-only, click to copy)
Package Base: ttf-ms-win11
Description: Microsoft Windows 11 Thai TrueType fonts
Upstream URL: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/product.aspx?PID=164
Licenses: custom
Conflicts: ttf-vista-fonts
Provides: ttf-font
Submitter: Vaporeon
Maintainer: Vaporeon (Scimmia)
Last Packager: Scimmia
Votes: 27
Popularity: 0.58
First Submitted: 2021-10-11 13:33 (UTC)
Last Updated: 2025-04-09 02:23 (UTC)

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kogasa commented on 2021-12-07 20:13 (UTC) (edited on 2021-12-07 20:17 (UTC) by kogasa)

As of today, seguiemj.ttf fails the validity check. I see the SHA256 hash for this font was updated today, but I'm not sure why. I downloaded the latest Win11 ISO (SHA256 4bc6c7e7c61af4b5d1b086c5d279947357cff45c2f82021bb58628c2503eb64e) and re-extracted the fonts, and the included copy has the old SHA256 hash.

smcf commented on 2021-12-07 19:41 (UTC) (edited on 2021-12-07 19:42 (UTC) by smcf)

Well, maybe we are talking past each other a little bit. MS Gothic, MS Mincho, and Meiryo are the default fonts on Japanese Windows 11. Extract Win11_Japanese_x64v1.iso and you can see this pretty clearly. The fonts in the document, in contrast, are the fonts that Microsoft guarantees will be available on all Windows locales.

I actually think including the fonts shipped by default in their respective locales actually makes the package more usable by the rest of the world. Shipping only a Gothic font isn't really useful for Japanese users. I'm sure the same applies to users in the other locales.

I'd rather just get this working than argue in the comments. If the maintainer of this packages only wants to include the UWP fonts, I'm happy to make a package that includes the fonts shipped by default in the various locales.

Scimmia commented on 2021-12-07 19:26 (UTC)

Look at the list again, they are NOT the default Japanese fonts on Windows. You seem determined on making this PKGBUILD unusable by the rest of the world, so le me be more blunt. What you expect does not matter. This is how Microsoft ships things, end of story.

And don't point to completely insane PKGBUILDs as an example; if anything, those PKGBUILDs are a prime example of what NOT to do.

smcf commented on 2021-12-07 19:21 (UTC)

I would once again like to stress that the fonts I mentioned are the default Japanese fonts on Windows. They are not part of a FOD package. They are shipped by default on all CJK Windows 11 ISOs.

At any rate, take a look at eg ttf-ms-win8 or ttf-win7-fonts. Both include MS Mincho and MS Gothic. Shipping MS Gothic but not MS Mincho is like shipping Arial but not Times New Roman.

https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=ttf-win7-fonts https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=ttf-ms-win8

Scimmia commented on 2021-12-07 19:14 (UTC)

Ah, so this is just misunderstanding the package names. This packages the fonts that are included with all versions of Windows, then splits them up. It does NOT package things only included as FOD packages, as that pretty much eliminates it from working for everyone else. If you have an issue with what's included, talk to Microsoft.

smcf commented on 2021-12-07 19:10 (UTC)

I generally agree, however I would reasonably expect "ttf-ms-win11-japanese" to include the fonts that are shipped on-disc by default by Japanese Windows 11. I would expect at the very least for it to include the default Gothic and Mincho fonts. It wouldn't be very useful to only include only sans-serif fonts for English, don't you agree?

Scimmia commented on 2021-12-07 19:07 (UTC)

darkengine, see https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/typography/fonts/windows_11_font_list

There's a whole lot of extra fonts included with supplemental FOD packages, there's no way to include them all, and picking and choosing makes little sense.

smcf commented on 2021-12-07 18:03 (UTC)

You actually do not have to run a live install or Windows Update to get the fonts I mentioned. They are included in the Japanese installation ISO, which you can download from the URL mentioned in the PKGBUILD (you just choose Japanese instead of English).

Vaporeon commented on 2021-12-07 17:15 (UTC)

darkengine: This package is intended to track the base fonts installed by all versions of the install media. The fact those fonts are considered "optional features" by MS is rather annoying. Including those fonts would mean a large scope change for this package as we would now hard depend on a running live install and having optional features installed, and it would break peoples use case of extracting the required fonts from any available install media.

One way around this would be to have a secondary package "ttf-ms-win11-full" on the AUR that assumes all optional fonts from windows update are installed.

umaxtu: You are right and that should be changed. I am considering changing the package to have the ability to take the path to the fonts as an environment variable, defaulting to ./Fonts. This way, you could also build the package by passing the path directly to a Windows 11 fonts directory if you have it mounted somewhere on your system, saving the need to copy them.

smcf commented on 2021-12-06 19:31 (UTC)

The ttf-ms-win11-japanese package is missing Meiryo and MS Mincho. They are included on the Japanese Windows 11 installation media, but not the English media. They are important as there is no Ming/Song/Mincho/serif style font in the package without MS Mincho.

The Japanese media includes even more Japanese fonts, but these two are the most important ones. SHA256 sums:

ad98d0f20b138d4bf1720ac4ff7ec7cc3e75154aa5fc3793f290730893e18536  meiryo.ttc
43a5d51a9aec83e3304cd7f0d697d9effe32131a61e85cb7e033451771f2d587  meiryob.ttc
9be3424e24837ef9f07a272e4aea7779b50eeb77a0a23a95bac8e6489624deb6  msmincho.ttc

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